layout: true background-image: url(../../images/slide_background.jpg) background-size: cover class: middle --- # Music and Podcasts ### Long Quotes --- ### Quote 1 --- ### “As I get older, it’s the awareness of having the recognition that I know that it’s time to go and read a book or listen to some music or if I’m in the car, it’s like I can’t do anything about this now, it’s 11.30 at night. I might not get a good nights’ sleep, but I can listen to a comedian or a fantasy story *(cont. ...)* --- ### – that’ll take my mind away from the place where it is. The technique of doing that in a car, alone after a disaster – that’s where your phone comes in and that can be very helpful, but that technology is not always available to someone.” --- ### Quote 2 --- ### “People could tell like their funniest, their funniest calving stories, their funniest client stories – within the bounds of decency and anonymity and all of that. Can you imagine like three or four vets having a round table chat, like “You know the most disgusting thing that ever happened to me in practice” because I do think, humour helps. *(cont. ...)* --- ### Or if someone is talking about something deeply emotive or something that was bad like coping strategies or things like that but if they’re easily digestible when you’re in the car when no-one else is there, people are more likely to engage with them because that’s a really private thing … *(cont. ...)* --- ### in your car when you’re there because you can either sit in your car and stew, or you can sit in your car and figure out how you can make your situation better without anybody knowing.” --- ### Quote 3 --- ### “Not really veterinary related, because I think sometimes we can be very insular. So sometimes I like to listen to things that are medical based or read books that are more medical based. I listen to a lot – not related to veterinary at all – but I listen to a lot of audio books and stuff like that. You know sometimes when you’re going to an emergency that’s like 45 minutes away or an hour away, you can sit in that car and stew about all the things that could go wrong or *(cont. ...)* --- ### be annoyed that it’s 2 o’clock in the morning, or be annoyed that you were busy and you got called out. Or you can be like, oh my god, I’m actually really grateful that I get an hour uninterrupted with my audio book! And I sort of reframed how I think about how I get in the car. Because, honestly, sometimes I used to cry. I used to think I just cannot get in the car again. *(cont. ...)* --- ### But now I’m like, I’ve queued up loads of podcasts, or I’ve queued up my audiobooks so that I’m gonna chill out, zone out! Stuff not directly veterinary related and it’s good that we get that out of our heads a little bit. I think that our advice and our support should be veterinary focussed for sure … but our distractions, not necessarily” --- ### Quote 4 --- ### “I think that it would be very useful for people to know that actually ... people have made these mistakes and if you look at some of the big names in farm animal medicine in terms of guys that have written books, I’d love to know what some of those guys have done in earlier years. Because they are the pinnacle, that’s what people aim towards, towards being. *(cont. ...)* --- ### For every new grad that aims to be a 7 or 8 year qualified vet like myself, and the 7 or 8 year qualified vet aims towards being like the senior director in their own company or like the guy who wrote all the books on mastitis you know. And I think you could get some of those guys involved in that kind of thing, it would make a big, big difference.” --- ### Quote 5 --- ### “… they could be anonymous stories, certainly could be anonymous stories. It would be very much up to the vet whether or not they wanted to put their name to it. They probably wouldn’t want to put their name to it because of the risk of it becoming, you know. The problem is there is a risk of it coming into the public domain … *(cont. ...)* --- ### Yes, if you needed a code to access it you know. I would be happy to put some of my stories on to it… As long as I knew that clients that I didn’t want to know about it didn’t get a hold of it then, I would be happy to put my name in towards it.” --- ### Quote 6 --- ### “I would almost value some case studies in there, gives you some techniques. You almost need somebody to turn around and go, “you know what, I’ve been in the game 8 years, I’ve made mistakes, I’m still here, I’m still a vet, I’ve got my RCVS and it sucks, but, it’s OK to care”. Because if you get somebody who is 50, 60 and yes, you’ve got respect for them, *(cont. ...)* --- ### but things were different 30 years ago, you didn’t get sued every 5 minutes. Actually, you need somebody who is 28 – 35 and has very much come through the current culture of “sue over everything”. And maybe even someone who has been sued and said, “yes, I’ve been sued but I’m a better vet for it.” --- ### Quote 7 --- ### “I think it (accounts of other vets’ mistakes) would be useful because I think at that moment it’s really reassuring to think that you’re not alone, and that other people understand. It’s the whole empathy / sympathy thing. I don’t want your pity but if you can convince me that you’ve actually been there, and you got through it, that’s more reassuring than hearing, “Oh well, these things happen, shit happens, you’re human”. *(cont. ...)* --- ### My worlds just come crashing in and someone’s going, “Oh well, it’s OK”. Well actually it’s not! But if somebody actually says, “you know what, it’s not OK” but it will be then you believe in them and that to me is worth more.”